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'Thank You, Mr. Chairman. Well, Nothing Says Honesty…' — C-SPAN

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July 29, 2026
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>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc? Let's try something. What day of the week is it today? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> What color tie are you wearing? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> What color is the carpet in front of you? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> What color tie are you wearing? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> Your chief of staff is the answer. Do you remember Patricia Conrad? Who was that? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> She was your personal assistant. And what were these individuals doing in the depth of the pandemic? In November of 2020, when millions of Americans were suffering from COVID, what were they doing? I tell you what they're doing. >> Folkers was on your behalf soliciting and gathering information for a cash award. Let's look at it. We've got his email right here, right over my shoulder. Folker says I'm working on this nomination for the Dan David Award for Fauci. We need to beef up the COVID part. Do you have language in the can that you could share that delineates how we responded in new ways to COVID? He sends this to multiple federal employees. What was the Dan David Award? Do you remember, Doc? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> It was a $900,000 cash award. $900,000 cash award. And he got it because he used federal employees to get it. And this wasn't the only award, was it, Dr. Fauci? In fact, you applied for and received at least eight other federal cash prizes on federal time using federal employees and federal resources. Here they are over my shoulder. Besides the Dan David Award, you've got the Partnership for Public Service. You've got the Adelson Prize. You've got the Smithsonian Award. You've got the National Academy of Medicines Award. You've got the CDC Foundation. In fact, you turned your staff into a full-time application machine. You actually wrote to people and said, do you think maybe I'd qualify? And you got cash for all of this. And it wasn't just one or two employees, was it? In fact, you used eight separate federal employees on federal time using federal resources to solicit cash awards. Isn't that true? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> Here they are right over my shoulder. Here's all of them. The people that you use, federal employees, so that you could go and get cash money. And the most hilarious part is that you weren't content to even dragoon them into applying for all of these cash awards. You then had them go out to the ethics agencies and ethics watchdogs and demand that you be able to get the money. That's right. We've got it in your emails. Your staff and employees on federal time using federal resources being paid with federal dollars are soliciting cash for you. And then they're turning around and saying to the agency, we don't want just an answer. We want to get to yes, because Fauci wants the money. He wants it. He wants to get to yes. And yes takes time. This is your chief of staff again, using federal email to pressure the agency's own ethics people so that you could get money, so that you could get rich. And it violated the law, didn't it, Dr. Fauci? Didn't it? It violated the law, didn't it? >> Is that a question? >> It is a question. You can answer. Go ahead. >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer. >> Federal law prohibits the solicitation of cash awards or other personal benefits for federal employees. And it certainly prohibits using your own employees to do this. It says it right there in black and white. >> Federal offices, federal email, federal time to solicit cash awards. And you did all of it. And the worst part is thousands of people were dying while you were doing it. You were supposed to be the nation's doctor and you're playing one on TV. But this is what you were doing with your time. Isn't that true? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. >> Yeah. Yeah, I can see why. Certainly see why. You know, what I can't quite figure out is that why you were so obsessed with it because you're already rich. I mean, and your scheme worked here. I mean, you're not worth now is north of $12 million. You got over a million dollars in cash awards during COVID, during a 12 month, 24 month span during COVID. A million bucks you knocked down in cash money using federal resources. Now you're worth more than $12 million. You've got a pension that in its first year paid out north of $400,000 a year. A million people dead. You're getting rich. A million people dead. You're using federal employees to get cash awards for you. A million people dead. And you're here taking the fifth because you don't want to admit that what really happened in all that time was a multi-month, multi-year course of self-dealing. Isn't that true, Dr. Fauci? >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution. >> Yeah, well, silence is admission. And here's the real thing. At the end of the day, it wasn't just about the money, really, was it? It was really about a power trip. I mean, through all of this, you want to be the most famous scientist in the world. You were so focused on getting every award and every drop of cash that you could, all because you wanted to be on TV. You wanted to be the sun god of science. You wanted to be the guy who was in charge of it all. You wanted to blambast Trump. You wanted to make sure that nobody else stole your spotlight. You wanted to be the guy. You had time to sit for InStyle magazine. Here's what you were doing with your time. You could sit for InStyle magazine, but you can't answer questions for the American people. You could sit for InStyle magazine, but you're here taking the fifth. You could sit for InStyle magazine and get a million bucks in cash awards. But now the cat's got your tongue. I bet he does. Here's my conclusion from all of this. This was really all about you the whole time. Somewhere along the way, you lost your way. You may have been a good public servant at one time. I don't know. But I can tell you from reading your emails now, from looking at what you did, how you used your employees, somewhere along the line, it became all about you. You became a narcissist and a megalomaniac and a liar. And you've lied to the American people and you've lied to this body. And you've disgraced your profession by doing it. You're myself, the most famous scientist in the world. You've done more to harm science than anybody in my lifetime. And I hope you'll go home and write that in your diary.