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New York / lockdown / herd-immunity clash
Paul attacked lockdowns and praise for Cuomo given NY mortality. Fauci said Paul misconstrued comments and challenged herd-immunity claims based on ~22% seroprevalence.
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HELP: Federal Response Update — NY / lockdown clash
C-SPAN program of the September 23, 2020 Senate HELP hearing with coronavirus task force witnesses. Contains the Paul–Fauci exchange over New York's death rate and Sweden, in which Fauci says Paul repeatedly misconstrues the data.
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HELP
lockdowns
New York
2020
Primary quotes
Fauci
“No, you misconstrued that, Senator. And you have done that repetitively in the past.”
Fauci
“If you believe 22 percent is herd immunity, I believe you are alone in that.”
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Policy history documented; scientific consensus evolved; political dispute remains.